--- Log opened Sat Jun 04 00:00:14 2011
04:12 < mcallan> thomasvonderelbe: this pollwiki can really chew my up my time, some nights. i probably won't be online till after noon. i'll look for u then, if you're around.
07:54 < conseo_temp> mcallan: i have just pulled and built against gwt 2.3 and it works
07:54 < conseo_temp> i get some gwt errors though, not yet sure why
07:56 < conseo_temp> http://pastebin.com/Tifzw2Vb
09:42 < conseo_temp> mcallan: ping
09:52 < conseo_temp> thomasvonderelbe: ping
11:01 < conseo_temp> maybe you two can add comments to my agenda? http://piratepad.net/bYX0z3ceRr
11:01 < conseo_temp> mcallan: i need to know how to access the count tree best and how to define the properties correctly
11:02 < conseo_temp> and thomasvonderelbe: is my onotology a good idea? maybe you can help with defining the properties and their units (unit conversion is a hot topic i guess)
11:40 < conseo_temp> mcallan: s/count tree/vote tree/ or whatever you prefer to call it
12:40 < mcallan> conseo_temp: pong
12:41 < conseo_temp> i am trying to fix the styling issue of the selected bubble, but i don't understand how it works: http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/thread/f09f18f468c38b86
12:41 < conseo_temp> this dependency injection stuff is confusing to me
12:43 < mcallan> what's that thread?
12:43 < mcallan> i mean why am i reading it?
12:44 < conseo_temp> because thomas has pointed out that the selected bubble in the diff-feed should not have a blue background, but rather an inverted speech bubble or something like that
12:44 < conseo_temp> so i am trying to style the celllist
12:45 < conseo_temp> but it doesn't seem to use the default css, so you have to reimplement it
12:45 < conseo_temp> (i think)
12:45 < conseo_temp> that is what they do imho
12:45 < mcallan> does skype work for you?
12:45 < conseo_temp> hmm, i can try
12:45 < conseo_temp> wait a moment
12:53 < conseo_temp> mcallan: ok ready
12:53 < conseo_temp> can i call u?
12:54 < conseo_temp> btw. have you read my pad?
12:55 < mcallan> yes
12:55 < conseo_temp> ok, cool
12:55 < mcallan> i mean yes call me!
13:08 < mcallan> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/
14:28 < thomasvonderelbe> Hi guys, I'm back. are you still talking?
14:30 < mcallan> thomasvonderelbe: hey thomas, we just hung up
14:30 < mcallan> i'm putting on some coffee
14:30 < mcallan> will you still be around in 15?
14:30 < thomasvonderelbe> i would like to talk to, do you feel like this
14:31 < thomasvonderelbe> yes
14:31 < mcallan> ok i'll ring you
14:31 < thomasvonderelbe> ok good
14:41 < thomasvonderelbe> conseo_temp: I just read through the pad. it sounds really good to me! still there are things I'd like to ask you about. 
14:41 < conseo_temp> ok i am back in half an hour
14:42 < thomasvonderelbe> I'm gonna be talking with Mike then.
14:42 < thomasvonderelbe> maybe we can have a talk tomorrow? are you gonna be around tomorrow?
15:11 < conseo_temp> yep
15:42 < conseo_temp> thomasvonderelbe: any suggestions for the coloring? http://whiletaker.homeip.net:8080/voff/crossforum/#c=DDum
15:58 < conseo_temp> mcallan: is this black and white coloring ok?
16:58 < mcallan> conseo_temp: you found the CSS solution
16:58 < thomasvonderelbe> conseo_temp: still talking to Mike
16:59 < thomasvonderelbe> but it looks white and black
16:59 < mcallan> you dummy thomas
16:59 < thomasvonderelbe> oh ok
16:59 < thomasvonderelbe> got it
16:59 < thomasvonderelbe> ähm
16:59 < thomasvonderelbe> i like blue much more
17:01 < conseo_temp> thomasvonderelbe: the coloring should be consistent with the mappers imo
17:03 < conseo_temp> mcallan: i think i have to change the db layout for the harvester again
17:03 < conseo_temp> mcallan: atm. i only save the position url of the poster, but we want the mnemonics to point to each position, right?
17:03 < conseo_temp> so i have to change the diffbites
17:03 < thomasvonderelbe> and also, i'd like to see the little noses of the bubbles also in blue
17:03 < thomasvonderelbe> thats just my opinion though
17:03 < mcallan> (the colour itself is easy to change later, it's more important to get shading and outlines correct)
17:04 < mcallan> the unselected bubbles probably need light outlines, 'cause theu don't look like talk bubbles on my screen
17:05 < conseo_temp> mmmh ok
17:07 < conseo_temp> mcallan: only a little bit lighter (like now) or really light?
17:10 < mcallan> light enough to see 'em on all screens
17:10 < mcallan> light grey i guess?
17:10 < conseo_temp> :-D
17:10 < conseo_temp> #444 atm.
17:11 < mcallan> #888 at least, i guess
17:14 < conseo_temp> uuuh ok
17:14 < conseo_temp> done
17:16 < mcallan> much better! when thomas's "noses" are in there, they'll look like talk bubbles
17:22 < conseo_temp> mcallan: like this?
17:22 < conseo_temp> (they were in there all the time already)
17:23 < conseo_temp> thomasvonderelbe: when will you be around tomorrow?
17:27 < mcallan> thomas says (he's not at the keyboard) after 12 noon
17:28 < conseo_temp> ok
17:29 < mcallan> it'll be tricky to make the noses hollow
17:29 < conseo_temp> hollow?
17:29 < conseo_temp> why do we need that?
17:30 < conseo_temp> yep that will be tricky
17:30 < mcallan> (thomas apologizes, says sorry he his too tired to leave his couch) - thomas's secretary
17:31 < mcallan> 'cause talk bubbles are hollow...
17:32 < mcallan> what if middle of nose is solid "black", and therefore covers the part of the bubble it touces
17:32 < mcallan> *touches*
17:32 < mcallan> so that will do the break you need in the bubble outline
17:35 < conseo_temp> tried that, does not work yet
17:35 < conseo_temp> i have to change layering
17:36 < conseo_temp> no
17:36 < conseo_temp> i have to change the whole layout :-(
17:37 < conseo_temp> got it
17:37 < conseo_temp> :-D
17:37 < conseo_temp> one mo.
17:43 < conseo_temp> mcallan: almost there
17:45 < conseo_temp> now it is really tricky
18:11 < conseo_temp> mcallan: full of win :-D
18:15 < conseo_temp> mcallan: should i commit now and do the harvester changes later (so you can pull the updated layout for your release) or can we fix the harvester for the mnemonics as well?
18:39 < conseo_temp> mcallan: i have committed the new layout. it works both in webkit and in gecko for me
18:40 < conseo_temp> i am off for today i think, n8 and cu
19:38 < mcallan> conseo_: ach, i got arguing with thomas in the other room
19:38 < mcallan> hey, that looks good
19:41 < mcallan> yes, it's a big improvement!
--- Log closed Sun Jun 05 00:00:28 2011