--- Log opened Sat Apr 16 00:00:03 2011
03:50 < thomasvonderelbe> conseo: we show only 20 but he can have much more. I asked in the list too, if we should have a position for "others" in the circle too. In the current vote-space we have, which I like.
03:51 < mcallan> thomasvonderelbe: too late, there's no room! ;-)
03:52 < thomasvonderelbe> mcallan: are you serious, or are you joking?
03:52 < mcallan> serious ;-)
03:53 < thomasvonderelbe> what does the smily mean then?
03:53 < mcallan> LOL
03:53 < thomasvonderelbe> there is always room for one more place in the circle, isnt it?
03:54 < thomasvonderelbe> you are joking!
03:54 < mcallan> :-)
03:54 < thomasvonderelbe> lol
03:54 < thomasvonderelbe> good!
03:54 < mcallan> i have absolute power over this code, and i don't have to listen to u ;-)
03:55 < thomasvonderelbe> if you dont code it, I find someone else ... so sorry ... no power!
03:58 < thomasvonderelbe> oh, was this to direct? i know its a nice feeling, i didnt want to take it away ...
03:59 < thomasvonderelbe> but sometimes its better to be honest.
03:59 < mcallan> i was just reading your post...
04:00 < mcallan> the others is just a detail, and we can change those easily when it's coded...
04:00 < thomasvonderelbe> ok, cool!
04:00 < mcallan> 'south-guy' is more important...
04:01 < thomasvonderelbe> but in many cases this position wont be available
04:02 < mcallan> well, i assume you mean 180-degree-guy...
04:03 < mcallan> ... measured from canadiate's radial
04:03 < mcallan> that's always available
04:04 < thomasvonderelbe> dont understand. i mean to cases: if the candidate is in the north, there is no soth-voter. and second case: if 19 positions are taken, he has to take the left over
04:04 < thomasvonderelbe> to/two
04:05 < mcallan> what was going to be constant (based on name) was the radial arm measured (for e.g.) clockwise...
04:06 < mcallan> ... so i would usually be on the 10th arm, for example...
04:06 < thomasvonderelbe> but this makes the recognition effect very little. and case two is still a problem, a very common one too, presumably
04:06 < mcallan> ... if my candidate was north of his candidate, then i would be north of him; if south, then i would be south
04:08 < mcallan> you want to make it look nicer, is that the main thing?
04:08 < thomasvonderelbe> yes
04:09 < thomasvonderelbe> nicer, asthetically and also nicer like real people
04:09 < thomasvonderelbe> real people gathering around someone
04:10 < thomasvonderelbe> ofc, if you dont picture a node so much as a person, but more as a draft, then the second is invalid
04:11 < mcallan> "rectangular to the tangente of the circle"?
04:12 < thomasvonderelbe> yes, = opposite direction of candidate of the candidate
04:13 < mcallan> opposite would be directly over the super-candidate
04:13 < mcallan> u mean in a straight line?
04:13 < mcallan> cc -> c -> v
04:14 < thomasvonderelbe> yes exactly
04:14 < mcallan> ok...
04:16 < mcallan> u sau ths looks nicer, because v2 will be closer to v?
04:16 < mcallan> *this*
04:16 < mcallan> *say* :-)
04:17 < thomasvonderelbe> lol
04:17 < thomasvonderelbe> v2 will be right beside v and v3 will be right on the other side of v
04:17 < thomasvonderelbe> just like real people would do it
04:17 < mcallan> ah, true!
04:18 < mcallan> damn, it's harder to code
04:18 < mcallan> unless i don't worry about saving places...
04:18 < mcallan> ... and why should i?
04:18 < thomasvonderelbe> is it? its just precalculated positions too, isnt it?
04:19 < mcallan> if you shift your vote, and it's a mistake, then shift it back quickly
04:20 < mcallan> you'll get the same spot, or one closer to the center...
04:20 < thomasvonderelbe> I'd like that, yes
04:20 < thomasvonderelbe> oh sorry, I mean the same spot
04:20 < mcallan> same spot is hard
04:21 < mcallan> hard*er*
04:21 < mcallan> so we'll code that later, once silly vote shifts (to change position) become a problem
04:21 < thomasvonderelbe> lol ok
04:22 < mcallan> but you're right, it's anti-social to put them at random angles and distances from each other
04:23 < thomasvonderelbe> I guess so, yes. especially if you picture them as people. if they were drafts, then its not such a problem, but maybe still a bit
04:23 < thomasvonderelbe> you can hang yourself over a draft from all sides of the table
04:24 < thomasvonderelbe> maybe not even this, because its hard to read from the other side
04:24 < mcallan> lol
04:24 < mcallan> nah, they're people
04:25 < thomasvonderelbe> both
04:25 < thomasvonderelbe> :-)
04:25 < mcallan> we put the callouts in, and it'll be more obvious they're people
04:25 < thomasvonderelbe> yes, yes
04:25 < mcallan> (people with drafts)
04:25 < thomasvonderelbe> exactly
04:25 < mcallan> (people with stuff to talk about)
04:25 < thomasvonderelbe> both aspects a very important
04:26 < mcallan> yes, but people trumps all
04:26 < thomasvonderelbe> people without drafts are not of much use
04:27 < thomasvonderelbe> and drafts without authorship neither
04:28 < mcallan> drafts important, maybe kings. but people are aces. :-)
04:28 < mcallan> well, no matter, they're *both*
04:28 < thomasvonderelbe> lol
04:29 < mcallan> they're people-drafts
04:29 < thomasvonderelbe> what is more important: light or darkness? emptyness or fullness?
04:30 < thomasvonderelbe> zero or eternity?
04:30 < mcallan> gettin' users
04:30 < thomasvonderelbe> lol
04:30 < mcallan> if this doesn't get us users, i'll eat my chair cushion
04:31 < thomasvonderelbe> that sounds disgusting!
04:31 < thomasvonderelbe> if I translate it right
04:31 < mcallan> lol
04:32 < thomasvonderelbe> I think, the whole crossforum is going to be very appealing!
04:33 < thomasvonderelbe> the users have to like it
04:33 < thomasvonderelbe> I myself cant wait to play with it
04:35 < mcallan> feed with real conversation -> callout -> votespace social map
04:35 < mcallan> that's the clincher
04:35 < mcallan> maybe there's bigger/better things possible, but that's enough to sky-rocket on!
04:45 < thomasvonderelbe> :-)
21:25 < mcallan> conseo: the long URL was mostly my fault, now it's shorter: http://zelea.com/var/cache/irc/_v/
21:32 < conseo> ok, i was just asking why you have linked your personal backlog on the list and not the xfbot's irclog. i thought you might have a problem with it ...
21:33 < conseo> i am off for the day now
21:33 < conseo> n8
21:33 < mcallan> n8
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