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16:14 < conseo> cfbot: help
16:14 < cfbot> === CrossforumBot 0.1pre===
16:14 < cfbot> Commands with PARAMETERS are:
16:14 < cfbot>  time # current time of the bot
16:14 < cfbot>  invite CHANNEL #invite bot temporarily to CHANNEL
16:14 < cfbot>  DIFFURL # echo some information about DIFFURL
16:16 < conseo> mcallan: hey
16:16 < mcallan> hey
16:17 < conseo> have you made any progresses?
16:17 < mcallan> haven't started yet, soon
16:18 < mcallan> i'll do as you suggest tho (thx)
16:21 < conseo> ok
16:21 < conseo> i am thinking about the bot being able to propagate new diff messages when they are successfully parsed by the harvester
16:22 < conseo> that way mailing list discussions would show off in the irc chat directly
16:23 < conseo> this is esp. interesting if we add a twitter client later ( http://www.winterwell.com/software/jtwitter.php )
16:24 < conseo> MarkDilley: how is the situation in wisconsin going?
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16:25 < MarkDilley> the governor ordered people to leave at 4pm - and 600 stayed and are still there - I told my friend to write a song about it  http://bit.ly/OneMoreDay
16:25 < MarkDilley> thanks for asking conseo 
16:25 < conseo> MarkDilley: i have followed you on twiter and seen that already
16:26 < MarkDilley> ahh
16:26 < conseo> Anonymous attacked the Koch brothers and got some arguments about it as I have also seen lately
16:26 < MarkDilley> yea
16:26 < MarkDilley> is it still down?
16:26 < conseo> dont know
16:27 < conseo> mcallan: the cool thing is imo to be able to invite the bot to other channels if you want to take the discussion there as well
16:27 < conseo> MarkDilley: are you still there?
16:30 < mcallan> conseo: maybe, i still think it's better to take guidance from users on non-essentials
16:30 < MarkDilley> yes
16:32 < conseo> mcallan: the necessary code for it is absoluetly non-intriguing (sth. like 5 lines of code)
16:33 < conseo> mcallan: i'll wait for twitter and other stuff for later, but playing with the bot has helped me to work on the API as it is a live service (not being polled)
16:35 < mcallan> how hard then to have voharvester read the maildir directly? you have a user asking ;)
16:36 < conseo> mcallan: ok :-/ seems to be a different api, i'll have a look
16:37 < mcallan> conseo: http://zelea.com/system/host/havoc/opt/javamail-1.4/docs/javadocs/
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16:39 < conseo> cfbot: invite #cotw
16:39 < mcallan> conseo: (my mistake, no maildir there)
16:41 < mcallan> conseo: we have a jar: http://zelea.com/project/votorola/g/mail/javamaildir.txt
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16:41 < conseo> mcallan: ok
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16:43 < conseo> cfbot: invite #cotw
16:43 < conseo> cfbot: time
16:43 < cfbot> conseo: The time is now Mon Feb 28 22:45:19 CET 2011
16:43 < mcallan> cfbot: date
16:43 < mcallan> cfbot: time
16:44 < cfbot> mcallan: The time is now Mon Feb 28 22:45:40 CET 2011
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16:44 < mcallan> cfbot: you should be called 'xfbot'
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16:45 < conseo> xfbot: invite #cotw
16:45 < xfbot> Joined #cotw.
16:45 < mcallan> ha!
16:46 < conseo> i still do care about this issue: http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/D?b=4048&a=4042&aR=2706&bR=2722
16:46 < MichaelMaranda> :)
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16:49 < conseo> i still do care about this issue: http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/D?b=4048&a=4042&aR=2706&bR=2722
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16:49 < conseo> cfbot: i still do care about this issue: http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/D?b=4048&a=4042&aR=2706&bR=2722
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16:59 < conseo> cfbot: i still do care about this issue: http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/D?b=4048&a=4042&aR=2706&bR=2722
16:59 < xfbot> POLL: Sys/p/fake AUTHOR: some-user-gnumail-org POSURL: http://tuxfamily.metagovernment.org/posurl.html
17:01 < conseo> mcallan: you are not interested in imap right?
17:01 < conseo> i'll try to get the mailbox stuff working then
17:07 < mcallan> conseo: yes please, it'll save me time (i'm a slow-ass admin). And it feels wrong to run courier if it's not truly needed
17:08 < conseo> ok
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17:29 < conseo> mcallan: i'll merge the bot now first, ok?
17:30 < mcallan> (he's asking my permission, that's a bad sign ;)
17:31 < mcallan> just kidding, it's a separate daemon right?
17:32 < conseo> a seperate Harvester (addable as a service)
17:32 < conseo> the code is seperated, but i have worked ont he api as well and i cannot cherry pick on files with merges :-/
17:33 < conseo> to remove it we only need to delete the files and remove 5 lines or so
17:33 < mcallan> oh, of course it's a harvester...  sure, that's all your balliwick.
17:34 < conseo> ok
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18:55 < conseo> xfbot: help
18:55 < xfbot> === CrossforumBot 0.1pre===
18:55 < xfbot> Commands with PARAMETERS are:
18:55 < xfbot>  time # current time of the bot
18:55 < xfbot>  invite CHANNEL #invite bot temporarily to CHANNEL
18:55 < xfbot>  DIFFURL # echo some information about DIFFURL
18:56 < conseo> mcallan: is setting the maildir path like String("maildir:/home/"+username+"/Maildir"); ok?
18:58 < conseo> xfbot: time
18:58 < xfbot> conseo: The time is now Tue Mar 01 00:59:47 CET 2011
18:59 < mcallan> yes, /home/POLLSERVER-NAME/Maildir is a good default
18:59 < mcallan> but it won't work for me
19:00 < mcallan> i need /home/POLLSERVER-NAME/Maildir/voharvester
19:01 < mcallan> actually, if it's configurable, i'll set /home/POLLSERVER-NAME/.mail/voharvester
19:01 < mcallan> problem is that pollserver already receives mail for other purposes
19:01 < mcallan> so there are multiple mailboxes
19:02 < conseo> ok
19:18 < conseo> hmm kmail doesn't want to access the maildir, what is the quickest way to access the maildir? i am not really into mutt atm.
19:28 < conseo> xfbot: help
19:28 < xfbot> === CrossforumBot 0.1pre===
19:28 < xfbot> Commands with PARAMETERS are:
19:28 < xfbot>  time # current time of the bot
19:28 < xfbot>  invite CHANNEL #invite bot temporarily to CHANNEL
19:28 < xfbot>  DIFFURL # echo some information about DIFFURL
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19:28 < conseo> i still do care about this issue: http://u.zelea.com:8080/v/w/D?b=4048&a=4042&aR=2706&bR=2722
19:28 < xfbot> POLL: Sys/p/fake AUTHOR: some-user-gnumail-org POSURL: http://tuxfamily.metagovernment.org/posurl.html
19:29 < conseo> xfbot: invite #cotw
19:29 < xfbot> Joined #cotw.
19:30 < mcallan> conseo: access? you want to deliver a test message?
19:30 < conseo> mcallan: i want to drop mailing lists messages there
19:31 < conseo> i can do that with my kmail for imap accounts
19:32 < conseo> MarkDilley: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jean_Nicolet.jpg *lol*
19:35 < mcallan> this is all i can think of: http://zelea.com/project/votorola/a/mail/VODeliver.java
19:40 < MarkDilley> conseo: nice - Walker as conquistador!
19:41 < conseo> looks like rambo 17th century to me
19:42 < MarkDilley> yep
19:48 < conseo> mcallan: well it builds and the changes are small. it could work already, but i am too tired to find a way to drop messages to the mailbox for now
19:49 < conseo> i can push my changes, if you are interested, otherwise i'll try to test it myself tomorrow
19:55 < mcallan> conseo: thank you, i'll wait (no rush)
19:55 < conseo> ok
19:55 < conseo> n8
19:55 < mcallan> n8
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